Obama, he's a piece of shit. I told him to suck on my machine gun ~ Ted Nugent (dob 12/13/1948) quote from a "a vicious onstage rant" during an August 2007 concert.
Just so you know, the post title is intentionally hyperbolic. I'd be OK with any method by which DJT was removed from office. Resignation, impeachment or removal via the 25th amendment would be preferable. I'd even be OK with him returning to his lavish lifestyle. Afterwhich he might divorce Melania and marry a 4th trophy wife.
It would make me extremely happy if he exited the presidency humiliated and (somehow) financially ruined. Or better yet, tried and sent to prison. Due to him violating the Logan act, being a traitor by colluding with Russia, obstructing justice, or in regards to past or ongoing criminal activity.
Point is, I am not wishing him death. Or calling for his death. Death would, in fact be the last thing I'd like to see in DJT's immediate future. I'd MUCH rather see him humiliated and ruined. Even if he does not end up in prison. Which is unlikely for many reasons (a pardon from a president Pence being one). But, given the fact that it will be up to Republicans to initiate removal under the Constitution (and they might be completely unwilling no matter what), I'd be perfectly OK with him being removed via death.
I mean, we know know that Republicans were aware of the Trump/Putin connection prior to the election! "House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy told fellow Republicans in a private meeting last year that he thinks Russian President Vladimir Putin pays Donald Trump"... as per audio tape and the Washington Post. Although McCarthey says it was a "joke". Sure.
So the chances of Republicans getting behind impeachment might be slim. Which is why I would be OK with getting Trump out of office by either assassination or a "natural causes" croaking. Surely I would not cry. According to the troll Luke/Steve (suggested on WYD in a deleted thread) I should be the one to take out Trump. Because I am "a sad, useless person who could be sacrificed for the cause". I pointed out to him that threatening the President of the United States is a class E felony (although that didn't stop Ted Nugent, who recently visited the White House).
But it is NOT going to be me. I do not believe I could outsmart the Secret Service. Even if I were willing to sacrifice myself to get rid of Trump. I would likely fail. That's IF I had a desire or ability to try. Which I DO NOT. Although it might be better that a White guy (which I am) did it. As opposed to a Muslim or Mexican. That might result in Trump's travel ban being permanent or his wall being built. By president Pence, perhaps.
In regards to assassination, a commenter on Quora says "if past is prologue, about 1 in 4 that he will be killed, injured or narrowly escape an assassination attempt. There is a 90% chance that at least one attempt will be made, since one attempt has been made on 9 of the last 10 Presidents".
But even if an attempt is made, it does not mean it will be successful. Death by natural causes might actually be the best resolution that can be hoped for. If collusion with Russia leads to impeachment and removal from office - you KNOW his supporters will never accept it. No matter the proof uncovered, it will be "fake news" as far as they are concerned.
Death by natural cause could raise concerns of foul play. Remember that Justice Scalia was "murdered"? But the nuts will believe what they want to believe. Trump's doctor Harold Bornstein claimed that Trump would be (if elected) the "healthiest president in history". Obvious bullplop.
A blog post from The Hill says "depending on what medical records are considered, the president is either overweight or obese. Weighing in at 236 pounds, he is the third heaviest president, behind William Howard Taft and Grover Cleveland. Trump is not a believer in exercise and his diet is considered less than healthy, by many experts".
CNN Politics reports that "other than golf, he considers exercise misguided. Apparently Trump believes "the human body is like a battery, with a finite amount of energy, which exercise only depletes". Of course people who aren't weirdos know this theory is idiotic.
Trump is also the oldest person to ever become president. Ronald Reagan was 69 at beginning of his first term. Trump was 70 upon inauguration. Many people believe he suffers from dementia. I agree that dementia could be an explanation. Raw Story believes "Trump's speech deterioration could be a sign of early dementia".
Although, the man who authored The Art of the Deal, Tony Schwartz, says "Trump has a 200-word vocabulary". This is an assessment Schwartz reached after working with the Donald (in preparation to ghostwrite his book) in 1987 (30 years ago).
A Trump presidency is a danger to the world and he MUST go. Which is why I'm OK with whatever it takes to remove him from office. Excepting any method that changes us from a democracy to some other form of government (a military coup, for example). Also, I would not want Madonna to blow up the White House (a lot of innocent people would die). Other than that? Whatever it takes. The incompetent Orange Buffoon has GOT to go. The sooner the better.
BTW, as much as I hated gwb (and I hated him a LOT), I never entertained such thoughts for a sustained period of time (assassination or death by natural causes). I thought he should be impeached for lying us into 2 illegal wars, but I did not seriously think it would happen. Unlike with Trump. Impeachment looks like a real possibility. Trump is clearly way in over his head. He is the most unqualified person EVER to assume the presidency.
Anyway, I am not calling for, or hoping that Trump be assassinated. I'm only saying that I wouldn't give a shit if he were. Unlike Trump, who did suggest that Hillary should be assassinated if she were to win. If gwb had been assassinated I would have agreed that it was a national tragedy (a president, any president being murdered). As opposed to possibly a good thing in the case of Trump.
Video: Insane man (or actor playing a character) Alex Jones says the CIA & Obama are plotting the assassination of Trump, 12/11/2016 (2:50).
Alex Jones and Donald Trump are both fucking nuts. Birds of a feather and such stuff...
ReplyDeleteI'd be okay with Trump dying peacefully in his sleep. I would give a fuck if he were assassinated.
If we advocate assassination, what is there to set us apart from the right-wing monsters who threatened Kennedy upon his arrival in Dallas, or even those who, taking no part in the murder itself, cheered and celebrated the death of this great American? We are no better than they. We become only opposing pawns in a game over which we have no control.
ReplyDeleteI am not ADVOCATING assassination. From my post...
ReplyDeleteJust so you know, the post title is intentionally hyperbolic. ... I am not wishing him death. Or calling for his death. Death would, in fact be the last thing I'd like to see in DJT's immediate future. I'd MUCH rather see him humiliated and ruined. ... I am not calling for, or hoping that Trump be assassinated. I'm only saying that I wouldn't give a shit if he were.
I would not celebrate if he was assassinated. That would probably mean a President Pence. So, no reason to celebrate. I'd only not be sad. Perhaps be glad, depending on what happened next. But I do think he needs to go and I don't particularly care how.
Dying peacefully in his sleep. FINE. Although that's letting him off easy, IMO. Like I said, I'd like to see him disgraced and humiliated.
Is there really any satisfaction in watching someone humiliated and disgraced?
ReplyDeleteHaving Trump gone and unable to do more harm is satisfaction enough methinks. Certainly for me.
Revenge is why Trump even ran for the presidency. He wanted to wipe out Barack Obama's legacy after he was made fun of at the 2011 White House Correspondents' Dinner. It would be poetic justice for him to end up humiliated, disgraced and with the legacy of a LOSER (his oft used word) instead. If Trump is a broken man at the end of this I will be very happy.
ReplyDeleteI will gain no satisfaction with him being humiliated and broken. It shall be enough when he is GONE.
ReplyDeleteAs for President Obama's legacy? Well, history will judge, not Trump. I personally believe history will be kind to Obama and his legacy will survive. It will be a positive one IMO.