tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post8412298939589493020..comments2023-09-16T04:45:50.404-05:00Comments on Sleeping with The Devil: On "Their" Being Something Missing From An Idiot Blogger's Healthcare Free Market Magic ArgumentDervish Sandershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-54318974916587591252014-06-14T11:40:51.957-05:002014-06-14T11:40:51.957-05:00Another comment from the blog of Will Hart...
Wil...Another comment from the blog of Will Hart...<br /><br /><i>Willis: I'm not that big of a mandate guy but in this situation [of healthcare] I really think that we need to get everybody contributing (<a href="http://paranoiacstoogetalk.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-bloated-role-of-government-in.html?showComment=1402715575137#c2844482705590259609" rel="nofollow">Link</a>).</i><br /><br />Willis' plan calls for jackbooted thugs from the (hated) "State" to show up at your door and, by way of pointing a gun at your head, FORCE you to contribute to a health savings account (although the guns might be metaphorical). It would be an "armed robbery" (stealing from people their freedom to do as they choose) that Will is OK with, while the "armed robbery" of paying your taxes he has "moral" problems with. Hypocritical, maybe? Definitely not morally consistent.<br /><br />And he says he's in favor of helping out poor people with subsidies... which is SOCIALISM! But, given that his plan "works" (or doesn't work, as I think the case would be) by using the magic of the "free market"... well, in that case the Socialist thugs pointing guns at people's heads must be OK in his (addled) mind.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-64771776762414910552014-06-13T17:05:46.502-05:002014-06-13T17:05:46.502-05:00If I was going to imagine I was "banging"...If I was going to imagine I was "banging" someone I'd never met before, it wouldn't be a grandma. Although Jerry's grandmother might be hot (who knows).<br /><br />But, back on topic, over on Will Hart's blog he's discussing the same issue... and since he won't let me comment there, I thought I'd respond to him here...<br /><br /><i>Willis Hart (via his blog): I would mandate health savings accounts and high deductible catastrophic plans and, yes, for poor people I would provide a subsidy through the government. Patient to provider directly would be the ultimate goal. (<a href="http://paranoiacstoogetalk.blogspot.com/2014/06/the-bloated-role-of-government-in.html?showComment=1402674195283#c2965103005353370152" rel="nofollow">Link</a>).</i><br /><br />Apparently Will doesn't think enough Americans go bankrupt due to medical bills. A CNBC study <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/100840148" rel="nofollow">says</a> "medical bills are the biggest cause of US bankruptcies", and that in 2013 nearly 2 million people filed for bankruptcy due to them. Furthermore the study says that "56 million adults - more than 20 percent of the population between the ages of 19 and 64 - will still struggle with health-care-related bills this year".<br /><br />Does Mr. Hart wish to see those figures increased? You don't have to be poor to not have the money to put into a health savings account. Yet Will wants to force people to set aside money (which means they're screwed if they need that money for something else)... and (get this) he wants the HATED "State" to do the forcing!Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-31194524048239404062014-06-13T13:19:27.521-05:002014-06-13T13:19:27.521-05:00Actually Jerry, I'm banging your old lady on a...<br />Actually Jerry, I'm banging your old lady on a regular basis. She say's your ED problem has really frustrated her.Rusty Shackelfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14232914458379098036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-41309698432795151152014-06-13T00:48:33.637-05:002014-06-13T00:48:33.637-05:00Rusty......are you still fucking your mother?Rusty......are you still fucking your mother?Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-65992932007235006052014-06-12T16:29:57.322-05:002014-06-12T16:29:57.322-05:00
Dervy.....are you and Jerry still members of th...<br /> Dervy.....are you and Jerry still members of the Lollipop League?Rusty Shackelfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14232914458379098036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-7457836449577385782014-06-12T16:27:35.167-05:002014-06-12T16:27:35.167-05:00Corporations are "free" to make as much ...Corporations are "free" to make as much money as they can by charging as much as they can get away with charging.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-42547571258455904832014-06-12T12:52:34.603-05:002014-06-12T12:52:34.603-05:00Nothing is free in a free market. Nothing is free in a free market. Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-40471945309386731702014-06-12T12:37:23.517-05:002014-06-12T12:37:23.517-05:00Exactly, Jerry. Lester thinks a nonprofit model is...Exactly, Jerry. Lester thinks a nonprofit model is "fiscally unsound"... apparently... when there is no cheaper way to provide healthcare for everyone. But some people don't mind at all if "certain people" don't get healthcare. <br /><br />Although I'm not saying Lester is one of those people. I thought he was with Will in believing in the magic of the so called "free market", but he told Will "their" was something missing (from Will's analysis). What it is that he thinks is missing we'll probably never know, however, as Lester likes speaking in riddles and usually not forthrightly stating what he believes.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-36389549860680526182014-06-12T12:10:56.736-05:002014-06-12T12:10:56.736-05:00Dervy.......how's the weather in Oz today?<br /> Dervy.......how's the weather in Oz today?<br /> Rusty Shackelfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14232914458379098036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-9922479177745701322014-06-12T11:11:23.400-05:002014-06-12T11:11:23.400-05:00Fiscally sound models are already out there and in...Fiscally sound models are already out there and in operation. Just look at the other industrialized nations. Our system is the fiscally unsound model.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-20075211072533528622014-06-11T19:59:21.938-05:002014-06-11T19:59:21.938-05:00I too (as opposed to two or to) am quite convinced...I too (as opposed to two or to) am quite convinced as I pen this, no that's incorrect, type this thar Will has missed something. <br /><br />But we need not fear as there (as opposed to their) is a solution. <br /><br />Carry on and it is possible you might one day hit upon a fiscally sound solution that won't break the treasury or the people.<br /><br />Maybe you and Will could arrive at a workable compromise solution eh! Naw, not at all likely.<br /><br />BTW, I like Caesar dressing on my salad.<br /><br />Les Carpenterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01120280762698472496noreply@blogger.com