tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post208082676809095592..comments2023-09-16T04:45:50.404-05:00Comments on Sleeping with The Devil: Libertarian BS About The Great Society Subsidizing PovertyDervish Sandershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-11795017510021982072013-11-15T11:32:53.770-06:002013-11-15T11:32:53.770-06:00Mooooooooooo-ch-Hell Ubunga is the missing link. S...Mooooooooooo-ch-Hell Ubunga is the missing link. Shes a she-boog just like that dike married to Mayor NeGrasiothis onehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14118314078712878621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-70680811189594832312013-11-15T00:30:52.556-06:002013-11-15T00:30:52.556-06:00I feel bad making fun of Will over here. but I ju...I feel bad making fun of Will over here. but I just can't stand to read his blog. It's like walking through dog shit.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-53075851829928021922013-11-14T20:13:39.424-06:002013-11-14T20:13:39.424-06:00Mr. LB's comments concerning poverty and out o...Mr. LB's comments concerning poverty and out of wedlock births left me speechless. It is so ridiculous. I think this is clearly a case where correlation does not mean causation. I just did not have the energy to pursue it. Thank you for picking up the gauntlet. Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-1488698848318840002013-11-14T16:59:35.313-06:002013-11-14T16:59:35.313-06:00Actually, he does delve into race politics. Will i...Actually, he does delve into race politics. Will is a strong believer that poor African-Americans suffer from "learned helplessness" and vote Democratic so they can continue to get government handouts. And he strongly believes that (at least some) Dems support the "welfare state" for this very reason.<br /><br />Example...<br /><br /><i>Will Hart: Just correcting the record. And have the progressives really moved on, Jerry? Or have they simply segued into a softer (yet equally virulent) form of bigotry? (<a href="http://paranoiacstoogetalk.blogspot.com/2013/11/a-race-to-north.html?showComment=1383781639110#c8227134250413913022" rel="nofollow">11/6/2013 AT 3:47pm</a>)</i><br /><br />The "bigotry" Will speaks of is Democrats keeping poor African-Americans down via welfare benefits. Take away welfare and (in his mind) poor AAs wouldn't be able to rely on the benefits... instead they'd realize they had to work to support themselves... and when they did many would become richer and stop voting Democratic. It's a twisted rationale and in my mind quite racist... even if Will isn't aware that the argument is racist, it is.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-38089160857129505372013-11-14T15:27:41.140-06:002013-11-14T15:27:41.140-06:00Sounds like Will really went off the deep end on t...Sounds like Will really went off the deep end on this one! SMH.<br /><br />One reason for the increase in out-of-wedlock births, (what a moralistic judgment!) probably had more to do with the sexual revolution. Clearly the advent of the pill, etc. coincided with this cultural phenomenon. But personally, I think it had more to do with really cute hippie chicks.<br /><br />If I'm not mistaken, Will is a little bit too young to have "come of age," so to speak in the 1970s. So instead of having lived through the 1960s and 1970s, he's just randomly pulling utter nonsense out of right wing think tanks and conservative blogs and newsletters. But to his credit, he toes the line of economic warfare and does not delve into race politics. Good for you Will.Flying Juniorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02098313953658606206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-61861814199073792492013-11-14T14:44:50.279-06:002013-11-14T14:44:50.279-06:00Will Hart: [Poverty under Reagan] eventually went ...<i>Will Hart: [Poverty under Reagan] eventually went down and the economy did exceedingly well for years. (<a href="http://paranoiacstoogetalk.blogspot.com/2013/11/depending-upon.html?showComment=1384391658485#c8062366756008527405" rel="nofollow">11/13/2013 at 5:14pm</a>)</i><br /><br />Will's <a href="http://paranoiacstoogetalk.blogspot.com/2013/11/depending-upon.html" rel="nofollow">own chart</a> says otherwise (in so far as his bogus claim that the poverty rate went down under Reagan after initially "ticking up"). What chutzpah Will has that he'd actually believe that he could get away with this blatant falsehood... while at the same time posting the evidence which shows his claim to be incredibly wrong!<br /><br />The following is an excerpt from THE NATION magazine that describes Reagan's war on the poor...<br /><br /><i>During his two terms in the White House (1981–89), Reagan presided over a widening gap between the rich and everyone else, declining wages and living standards for working families, an assault on labor unions as a vehicle to lift Americans into the middle class, a dramatic increase in poverty and homelessness... During Reagan's two terms in the White House, the minimum wage was frozen at $3.35 an hour, while prices rose, thus eroding the standard of living of millions of low-wage workers. The number of people living beneath the federal poverty line rose from 26.1 million in 1979 to 32.7 million in 1988.<br /><br />Reagan eliminated general revenue sharing to cities, cut funding for public service jobs and job training, almost dismantled federally funded legal services for the poor, cut the antipoverty Community Development Block Grant program and reduced funds for public transit. These cutbacks had a disastrous effect on cities with high levels of poverty and limited property tax bases... in 1980 federal dollars accounted for 22% of big city budgets [but] by the end of Reagan's second term, federal aid was only 6%. The consequences were devastating to urban schools and libraries, municipal hospitals and clinics, and sanitation, police and fire departments - many of which had to shut their doors. Many cities still haven't recovered from the downward spiral started during the Gipper's presidency. (<a href="http://www.thenation.com/article/158321/reagans-real-legacy" rel="nofollow">Reagan's Real Legacy</a> by Peter Dreier, 2/4/2011)</i>Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.com