tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post3738826515227745176..comments2023-09-16T04:45:50.404-05:00Comments on Sleeping with The Devil: Troubling Attacks on Edward Snowden From The LeftDervish Sandershttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-64628314226798671882013-06-16T13:28:48.814-05:002013-06-16T13:28:48.814-05:00Step 1: Repeal the patriot act.
Step 2: Procecu...Step 1: Repeal the patriot act.<br /><br />Step 2: Procecute government officials who authorize illegal actions.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-9779093224950004482013-06-16T11:36:28.076-05:002013-06-16T11:36:28.076-05:00I am on Snowden's side despite his apparent fa...I am on Snowden's side despite his apparent failings. I think he may have embellished some aspects but the general layout that the NSA (and by extension the Corporate controlled Government) have unconstitutional access to information.<br /><br />However, I think Obama feels justified because everything's <i>probably</i> been done inside the FISA and other Patriot Act "legal" framework.Grung_e_Genehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01894879088472559055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-88225407056860914522013-06-15T16:55:08.590-05:002013-06-15T16:55:08.590-05:00From the Guardian... Al Gore: NSA's secret sur...<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/14/al-gore-nsa-surveillance-unamerican" rel="nofollow">From the Guardian</a>... Al Gore: NSA's secret surveillance program "not really the American way". Former vice-president – not persuaded by argument that program was legal – urges Congress and Obama to amend the laws. <br /><br /><b>Jerry:</b> I don't know how the Supreme Court would rule. The Right-wingers would be for the spying, wouldn't they? You may be right about the powers that be not wanting it to go there though. They were lucky with Bradley Manning who is being tried in a military court. With Snowden that wouldn't be an option. It will be interesting to see what happens. He should have fled to Iceland where they actually would have welcomed him.<br /><br /><b>Mapologist:</b> I think we need laws that would prohibit BOTH the government and corporations from collecting our data and spying on us. As for the rest of what you wrote... I don't follow.Dervish Sandershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13671865801885224353noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21976234.post-77076612746978206712013-06-15T10:38:41.373-05:002013-06-15T10:38:41.373-05:00Ellsberg makes an interesting comment, "...ca...Ellsberg makes an interesting comment, "...can it be criminal to release secrets that are protecting criminal or unconstitutional behavior?<br /><br />Like him, I would like that question to go to the Supreme Court. Until then, I'm afraid the answer is yes, which may be why he was never charged under that particular law. The "powers that be" don't want it clarified.<br /><br />Secondly, the whole surveillance problem stems from the patriot act. It needs to be overturned, or at least greatly modified. Remove the current justification for the surveillance. <br /><br />We, as a society, readily accept thousands of people killed every year by the automobile and by guns in the name of convenience and a false sense of security. We should also accept the possibility of a few more deaths from terrorists to protect our privacy.Jerry Critterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01870618647449723147noreply@blogger.com